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Somewhat new, just wondering about something
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Singleslammer
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10/30/2006 10:45 AM
    Hi, I am somewhat new to auto-x and new to this forum. I have been racing my SVT focus, but have a 90' nissan 240sx that I am wanting to prepare for either GS or STS. I was wondering which I could be more competitive in. I know that I couldnt probably compete with the Minis, but I am not sure how the car (and me) would preform with r-compunds. I was just curious what you fellow racers would suggest to someone who is lost in the classes.
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    10/30/2006 2:52 PM

    For the local events I would say STS as the Mini's are going to be some very tough compatition. But that is just my opinion.

    At this time what you really need to do is ask what you want to do with the car and then pick the class that fits.

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    10/30/2006 4:21 PM
    Well the car is going to be a DD so nothing to drastic and nothing will affect gas mileage. I am just trying to prep the car to perform well for both race and good mileage duties. From what I have read other than STS I am going to be getting into classes that allow for vast amounts of modifcations and I would like to find a class that I can be comfortable that I have done all I can to make the car as good as I can.
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    10/30/2006 4:50 PM
    I believe a 240 placed fairly high in STS this year at Nationals?
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    10/30/2006 8:09 PM

    [quote user="Christoc"]I believe a 240 placed fairly high in STS this year at Nationals?[/quote]

    If by "fairly high" you mean 1st place, that would be correct. A 240 ended the Spec Civic era by winning both the ProSolo finale and Nationals. The car is for sale:

    http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/208510.aspx

    The ad also gives a complete description of the setup, which could be very valuable if you want to go that route.

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    10/30/2006 9:05 PM
    [quote user="Reto"]

    [quote user="Christoc"]I believe a 240 placed fairly high in STS this year at Nationals?[/quote]

    If by "fairly high" you mean 1st place, that would be correct. A 240 ended the Spec Civic era by winning both the ProSolo finale and Nationals. The car is for sale:[/quote]

    I find it more intersting that the driver who never drove the car before placed 6th.

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    10/31/2006 8:00 AM

    [quote user="Singleslammer"]Well the car is going to be a DD so nothing to drastic and nothing will affect gas mileage. I am just trying to prep the car to perform well for both race and good mileage duties. From what I have read other than STS I am going to be getting into classes that allow for vast amounts of modifcations and I would like to find a class that I can be comfortable that I have done all I can to make the car as good as I can.[/quote]

     Ok in my 04 Civic all I did was lowering springs, KYB AGX dampers, Short Shift kit, Front and rear Anti-sway Bars, Lighter wheels with Falken RT-215's it stayed very civil and did farily well on the autocross cousre locally. I finished third in 2005 in sts and missed out on 2nd only by a few points.

     
    So yes you could od alot in STS but you can also do very little and still make it a good car to run.
     

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    10/31/2006 4:34 PM

    Thats good enough for me. I am thinking about rebuilding the motor anyway. I think that would give me a good enough performance boost (back to new) and the suspension setup is pretty good to begin with. Thanks for the input. I appreciate.  

    Am I allowed to switch up to a VLSD since it was avaliable on the Hicas model of the 240sx? Also what would you guys suggested as far as tires? I know that the Azenis are good for the money, but are there any better tires even if they are more expensive? 

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    10/31/2006 5:18 PM

    for Autox there are alot of R-Comp tires which are a bit better,

    Hoosier A6/R6, Kuhmo v710's, Michelin pilot Sport cup, yokahama A048 or more.

    Falkens are great street tires, but track/racing tires are a step better for racing.

     

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    10/31/2006 7:38 PM
    How soon you all forget.... 

    A 240 dominated DSP a couple seasons ago locally in St. Louis [:P]


    [quote user="Singleslammer"]Am I allowed to switch up to a VLSD since it was avaliable on the Hicas model of the 240sx? Also what would you guys suggested as far as tires? I know that the Azenis are good for the money, but are there any better tires even if they are more expensive? 
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    no, you'd have to switch over everything, including Hicas.  I ran my car in stockish trim in DSP, all it had was a J30 VLSD and very used R-compounds.  I still think DSP is the class where the 240 has the most potential.  Its the only class where it can take advantage of fitting stupid amounts of tire, RWD, and weigh less than the competition. 
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    10/31/2006 7:59 PM

    Yes R-Comps are a lot better then the the Falkens but are not legal for STS.

     

    As for the better tires for STS I would personaly use the Falken RT-615's but some of the other options are Kumho Esta MX, Hankook (don't know the model number), or BFGoodrich KDs(MUCH MORE $$$)

     

     

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    11/01/2006 9:06 AM

    R-S2 is the Hankook tire Pete is talking about. It's the cheapest among the most competitive tires, so that would be my recommendation. The RT-615 is another good option. If price is no concern, the Yokohama AD07 is probably the #1 right now, but all these tires are very close.

    The BFG KD's never really worked out for anybody. The Kumho MX is outdated, and I believe Kumho is introducing the successor at SEMA.

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    11/01/2006 9:36 AM
    The Hankook is a terrible tire at full tread.  The 500 tread wear Michelin all season tires on my pick up have more grip.  It needs to be shaved to 4/32nds to be usable and 2/32nds would be better.  If you don't believe me, ask Arshad.  He is the proud owner of those things.[:P]
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    11/01/2006 11:13 AM
    [quote user="rennen"]
    How soon you all forget....

    A 240 dominated DSP a couple seasons ago locally in St. Louis [:P]

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    If by "dominated" you mean "showed up to every event and just barely got the win by 4 points with the help of a few strategic points messer-uppers"... 

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    11/01/2006 1:06 PM
    Well if this all goes through, I will probably go with the 615s cause I am poor and tires aint cheap. A friend of mine has very good luck with the MXs but I think the 615 is still a better tire. Who knows I might end up selling the 240 and preping the focus for STS.
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